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Matt Uhlig I love this ball! It fits right in between my Hammer Diesel, and my Hammer Rip'd. I've put a 65 x 4 1/2 x 35 layout on it, that puts the pin above my ring finger with no weight hole. This ball is really smooth through the heads and it has great hitting power! I have yet to leave a 7 pin with it after about 6 games lol